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Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112072

This is actually a really good interview, and the old guy makes a lot of sense for once in most of it. I, for one, am amazingly pumped for the Machina double album re-release.

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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112089

Yeah, that was a good interview.

I agree with him about GLOW, I'm surprised at the negative reaction that it got. It does sound a lot like MCIS, but at the same time it is a lot more polished and the lyrics aren't great, so I can still see where that negative reaction comes from.

I really enjoyed the bit about 90s sell-outs and re-releasing Machina:
You’ve talked about other ‘90s bands being sellouts, is doing a re-release of your back catalogue a sell out move?
That’s a dumb question. That’s one of those set up, journalist dumb questions. Come on I’m 45, you’ve got to do a little better than that one.

Alright. Machina II is a brilliant album, have you ever thought about releasing it properly, maybe when you re-issue the others?
Yes. Our sell-out move, for Machina, is we’re going to remix the whole record and put it in its official sequence the way I’d hoped for in the beginning. I wrote it as a rock opera double album type of thing, so we’re going to remix the whole thing. I’ve already talked to Flood, and he’s been indicating he wants to be involved with that part of the process, and then we’ll finally finish the album, the way it was meant to be. How was that? Did that pass the Pitchfork meter of integrity? Me reaching into my own pockets to remix my own records so I can convince kids who didn’t like them the first time the first time to buy them again?

I think that’s good, I think the fans have been waiting to hear that for a long time.
Very good.

:D

He loses me with his god talk on the last question, but I'll overlook that bit ;)
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112100

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You can skip Billy's Jesus bullshit but for most parts this interview was good.

Another part I wouldn't agree on is his quote about bands.
Yes, BC/JC together in one room maybe is better than 99% of the other bands but it definitly is also a lot better than the crap like Beatles all the other overhyped rockstar rockism bands he mentioned.
He should take a look at actually good bands when he wants to compare his work to something :D .

Having mighty Flood back in the game will make us see well-mixed reissues for MCIS, Adore and MACHINA.
I already was prepared for the worst.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112129

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I actually can see songs like "G.L.O.W." and "Superchrist" fitting in on either MCIS or Machina (I or II). Maybe not lyrically, but musically fitting.

Cannot fucking WAIT for the Machina reissue. I truly think it will reintroduce the album in a more proper manner and some of the fair-weathered fans might finally begin to appreciate how great some of those tunes really are.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112130

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For me, I can see Superchrist fitting perfectly on Zeitgeist, but otherwise I'm not getting elsewhere for those songs. Talking about Glow being on Mellon Collie isn't selling me - I guess then it is supposed to fit into the Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet lot - But let's just clarify - Those are the worst songs from Mellon Collie, AND Glow isn't as good as they are. I mean, is there anyone who would want Jellybelly or Zero taken off for Glow. Don't even say Lilly or We only come out at night should go - Glow has absolutely nothing to replace those songs.

I think Superchrist is fantastic, but it's not Mellon Collie and it's definitely not Machina - it's Zeitgeist full on.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112131

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Yeah, the lyrics to GLOW place it squarely in the "Come on" era.

But glad to hear he's getting back with Flood and remixing MACHINA :)
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112133

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Sorry, I posted prematurely. I also agree that these tracks fit much, much better with Zeitgeist.

But I strongly disagree that "Jellybelly," "Zero," and "Bullet" are the worst songs on MCIS. Though two of the three were [overplayed] singles, they are staple SP songs -- if they were the worst, they wouldn't be. I am not hating on "Lily" or "We Only Come Out at Night," those are outstanding tunes as well. But I would rank any of the first three over those two.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112143

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I could see G.L.O.W on The Airplane Flies High, but not on Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness (I could also see Song For A Son and Freak USA on The Airplane Flies but that's neither here nor there).

I could see Superchrist and Gossamer on Machina / The Machines Of God or Machina2 / The Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music.

I have a long list of songs that I think should not have been on Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness Cupid De Lock, Take Me Down, We Only Come Out At Night, Beautiful, Lily My One And Only. I think there are easily five songs on The Airplane Flies High. The real fact is I think there are seven songs that should have been on Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness Ugly, Set The Ray To Jerry, Marquis In Spades, Pennies, Rotten Apples, Jupiter's Lament, The Aeroplane Flies High.

On the other hand I have always thought that every song on Adore was perfect.

I wonder why Billy is talking about the reissue of Machina / The Machines Of God or Machina2 / The Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music? The reissue of Adore should come first. I hope they erase the drum machine track from Adore and let Mike lay down the drums for that album. I would also like to see To Ava Adore, Perfect, Sheila, Crestfallen, For Martha's B-sides on the bonus disk.
I don't mean to hurt anyone, I'm just speaking my personal opinion.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112164

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frankB wrote:
Jellybelly, Zero, Bullet lot - But let's just clarify - Those are the worst songs from Mellon Collie,

Why the hate on Jellybelly! I love that song so much!

Anyway, i think the interview is great. Hopefully, the re-issue will finally win me round to Machina. Its the last Pumpkins album im yet to fully appreciate. I like it, but at the moment, i think even Zeitgeist just pips it... Please, dont lynch me
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 3 weeks ago #112176

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GLOW fitting into the Mellon Collie era?? I don't see it. I see it more fitting in the Zeitgeist era just like Superchrist. My least favorite on Mellon Collie are probably "Tales of A Scorched Earth", "We Only Come Out At Night", "Take Me Down" and "Cupid De Locke". "Cupid De Locke" has grown on me over the years, but still probably bottom four songs on Mellon Collie for me.

I'm interested to see how both the Adore and Machina reissues turn out. Still wondering what they would have in store for a TAFH reissue as well. Adore and Machina are my favorite albums, so obviously I can't wait for those.
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Re: Billy will have the last laugh 1 year 2 weeks ago #112428

Jellybelly rocks. They can lynch us both.

Lol.

I'm seriously hoping Oceania has strong impact. I want so much for rock - and the album format - to sustain.

Also digging the cover art - but it cracks me up when track lists are publicized - like knowing the titles of the tunes is going to enlighten us to the content of the songs...
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