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Billy and Jimmy are the most respected of the pumpkins because noone gives any respect to the other musicians...probably the way Billy wanted it. The only instrument he can't take credit for is the drums. Regardless how much you people say that Billy and Jimmy are the core of the pumpkins...they were also the core of zwan. And if you truly think they are the core of the Pumpkins you have never heard an album called Adore.
Its funny - someone mentioned Siamese Dream...they recorded that in my hometown Marietta. Jimmy was heavy into his drugs back then and disappeared for weeks druing the recording sessions. They had such a hard time finding him that they actually went on the radio and asked people if they had seen him around. He later turned up at an R.E.M. concert. Thats how u help shape the tone of an album I guess?
Has anyone heard the interviews Billy did when Jimmy was asked to leave the band...He calls Jimmy 25% of the whole. NOT 50% to his 50% - If Billy believed as much as u all do that Jimmy and he ARE the pumpkins - HOW COULD HE ASK JIMMY TO LEAVE THE BAND??? There would have been no pumpkins after that...but yet he continued with his OTHER bandmates - the other 75%. C'mon people.
I think Adore was a great album, and a really good direction for the band to go in. And it definitely - although Jimmy's absence is noticeable - doesn't need Jimmy in it to be a great album. But, I don't think the pumpkins would have been able to sustain themselves without Jimmy returning, for musical reasons, and just based on things Billy's said about their relationship, both musical and personal.
"HOW COULD HE ASK JIMMY TO LEAVE THE BAND???" - because they weren't just bandmates, they were friends. Billy has explained this, how he felt this was the only was to save his friend, even if it cost his band so much. He chose Jimmy over his band, and the success of the band.
As for the stuff about siamese dream - yeah, Jimmy had some f**ked up things going on in his life - and it definitely didn't help the band, but this doesn't denote from his musical impact. Billy's confessions give some really interesting insite into the dynamics of the band during this period...which, I can't be bothered reading and finding the relevant parts to quote here. So, yeah.
