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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86409

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What about Zeitgeist?
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I have Zeitgeist on my SP2 list, but since we're getting a reissue I guess it can't hurt.

Wait a sec, they ARE doing a reissue of Zeitgeist?

Yep. 2014 will bring TFE, MSOTS and Zeitgeist according to the Twitter of Billy Corgan.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86412

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ryon wrote:
kjrain12 wrote:
ryon wrote:
Strayz1 wrote:
What about Zeitgeist?
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I have Zeitgeist on my SP2 list, but since we're getting a reissue I guess it can't hurt.

Wait a sec, they ARE doing a reissue of Zeitgeist?

Yep. 2014 will bring TFE, MSOTS and Zeitgeist according to the Twitter of Billy Corgan.

Apparently the apocalypse is in 2014 now...
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86417

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ryon wrote:
kjrain12 wrote:
ryon wrote:
Strayz1 wrote:
What about Zeitgeist?
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Signal To Noise
From America With Love
Scars
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I have Zeitgeist on my SP2 list, but since we're getting a reissue I guess it can't hurt.

Wait a sec, they ARE doing a reissue of Zeitgeist?

Yep. 2014 will bring TFE, MSOTS and Zeitgeist according to the Twitter of Billy Corgan.

I wonder if those will be any good? Zeitgeist stuff has been milked pretty heavily. There are what, 100 different variations and editions already.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86418

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Well I assume they'll just have 1 Zeitgeist reissue with all the bonus tracks (heard & unheard) on the bonus disc. As for Zwan, there's tons of cool unreleasedZwan stuff. I never liked TFE though, so I don't know what's going to go on the second disc of that.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86425

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Dorovo wrote:
Well I assume they'll just have 1 Zeitgeist reissue with all the bonus tracks (heard & unheard) on the bonus disc. As for Zwan, there's tons of cool unreleasedZwan stuff. I never liked TFE though, so I don't know what's going to go on the second disc of that.

I was hoping they would master the album differently. Ya know, so it doesn't make my ears fucking bleed when I max the volume. :p

Seriously though, Zeitgeist deserves justice.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86426

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I'd rather Billy just re-record the guitars and leave out the chorus of Billy :P I hope it gets remastered too though
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86434

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I'd rather Billy just re-record the guitars and leave out the chorus of Billy :P I hope it gets remastered too though

Eh...I'm not big on on re-recorded albums, but I agree, the Billy choirs gotta go.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86639

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Updating for:

The future embrace

All saints
The ballad of Frank and David
Bit 2
Bit 5
Bit 7
Black Irish
Black sox
Bobby Franks
Cease to be
Columbus
Come undone
Never too young
Prairie song
Say goodbye
Spike driver
White city
White lights
The world's fair
You were mine
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86643

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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86662

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glass wrote:
Updating for:

The future embrace

All saints
The ballad of Frank and David
Bit 2
Bit 5
Bit 7
Black Irish
Black sox
Bobby Franks
Cease to be
Columbus
Come undone
Never too young
Prairie song
Say goodbye
Spike driver
White city
White lights
The world's fair
You were mine

A lot of those are from the Chicago Songs, which I wouldn't bunch together with TheFutureEmbrace b-sides.

But Billy has hinted that said songs will be released, so I reckon they could be included as their own thing:

Black Irish
Black Sox
Bobby Franks
Columbus
Come Undone
El-A-Noy
Friends as Lovers, Lovers as Friends
Prairie Song
Say Goodbye
Spike Driver
White City
White Lights
The World's Fair
You Were Mine
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86663

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He has said Chicago Songs is coming, should I make a separate section for them? And if so, can someone separate those songs?
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86664

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Just did! :p
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86671

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i just noticed Love was under MCIS. but surely you must be talkng about the pre-Gish Love, since the MCIS one was on the album?

oh and if we are listing Zeitgeist songs, does that mean we can list unreleased Residency songs too?
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86679

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Pug92 wrote:
i just noticed Love was under MCIS. but surely you must be talkng about the pre-Gish Love, since the MCIS one was on the album?

oh and if we are listing Zeitgeist songs, does that mean we can list unreleased Residency songs too?

Yes, we could do it. ryon has his list.
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86692

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alright well this is from ryon's very own list, back in the "Unreleased SP2 songs" thread.

99 Floors
Peace + Love
No Surrender
The Leaving Lament
If All Goes Wrong
Psalm 131
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Mama
I'm Doing The Best I Can
Promise Me
Gossamer
Orpheus Desending

and then there's also Corsage in Flames
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86713

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You're forgetting some 20th Anniversary songs :)
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86718

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of course. i was listing Residency songs :)

20th Anniversary songs are in the Teargarden era, and i think the point of this list is so we can see possibilities of reissue bonus tracks. and Teargarden isn't getting reissued anytime soon.

for those tracks, see the sister thread Unreleased SP2 songs :)
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86719

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True, true. I have them all though. :)
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86720

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So...the pre-Gish / Gish and Zwan sections are the largest. :( I wanted Mellon Collie and Adore to be the biggest!
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Re: Unreleased SP1 Songs 1 year 11 months ago #86721

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I have no doubt that Billy has more unreleased MCIS tracks than Zwan. Pre-Gish, maybe. But that was when they were experimenting as a band so I'd expect that to be the biggest. A lot of the unreleased stuff is actually unreleased, as in, we haven't seen or heard of it.
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