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DOOMSDAY CLOCK

Past rated songs:

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1.THRU THE EYES OF RUBY 97.19%
2.TONIGHT, TONIGHT 95.34%
3.STARLA 95.26%
4.BLANK PAGE 94.86%
5.DROWN 94.76%
6.MAYONAISE 94.63%
7.FOR MARTHA 94.58%
8.GALAPOGOS 94.52%
9.STAND INSIDE YOUR LOVE 94.08%
10.PORCELINA OF THE VAST OCEANS 94.07%

11.Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 93.36%
12.Age Of Innocence 93.12%
13.Rhinoceros 92.94%
14.Soma 92.81%
15.Farewell and Goodnight 92.22%
16.To Forgive 92.08%
17.By Starlight 91.90%
18.1979 91.64%
19.X.Y.U. 91.57%
20.Hummer 91.09%
21.To Sheila 90.86%
22.Tear 90.43%
23.Pug 90.20%
24.Behold! The Night Mare 90.16%
25.I Of The Mourning 90.07%
26.Ava Adore 90.04%

27.Cherub Rock 89.42%
28.Thirty Three 89.29%
29.Zero 89.21%
30.Window Paine 89.17%
31.Geek U.S.A. 88.94%
32.Snail 88.80%
33.Lucky 13 88.59%
34.Glass and the Ghost Children 88.55%
35.Slow Dawn 88.29%
36.Speed Kills (Alternate Take) 88.22%
37.Disarm 88.05%
38.Where Boys Fear To Tread 88.04%
39.Silverfuck 87.75%
40.Muzzle 87.54%
41.Crestfallen 87.29%
42.Daphne Descends 87.10%
43.Bodies 87.04%
44.Dross 86.86%
45.Jellybelly 86.69%
46.Saturnine (Machina era) 86.32%
47.Obscured 86.20%
48.Rocket 85.82%
49.Fuck You (An Ode To No One) 85.26%
50.Eye 85.20%
51.Perfect 85.14%
52.In My Body 84.71%
53.Here Is No Why 84.56%
54.Bullet With Butterfly Wings 84.54%
55.Today 84.44%
56.Beautiful 84.42%
57.Vanity 84.32%
58.Luna 84.00%
59.Bury Me 83.82%
60.In The Arms Of Sleep 83.58%
61.Soothe 83.35%
62.Stumbleine 83.26%
63.Home 82.94%
64.With Every Light 82.90%
65.Raindrops + Sunshowers 82.87%
66.Wound 82.23%
67.The Sacred and Profane 82.05%
68.Daydream 81.88%
69.Untitled 81.70%
70.Suffer 81.68%
71.The Tale of Dusty & Pistol Pete 81.61%
72.This Time 81.55%
73.Cupid de Locke 81.35%
74.Appels + Oranjes 81.33%
75.The Everlasting Gaze 81.31%
76.The End is the Beginning is the End 81.24%
77.Blue Skies Bring Tears 81.17%
78.Siva 81.16%
79.Once Upon A Time 81.00%
80.The Crying Tree of Mercury 80.60%
81.Try, Try, Try 80.41%
82.Let Me Give The World To You 80.22%
83.Love 80.15%

84.Quiet 79.95%
85.Go 79.45%
86.Plume 79.12%
87.Frail and Bedazzled 79.00%
88.I Am One 78.95%
89.Shame 78.50%
90.Landslide 78.48%
91.Here's To The Atom Bomb (Alternate Take) 74.26%
92.Whir 77.35%
93.Hello Kitty Kat 77.00%
94.Blue Skies Bring Tears (Heavy) 76.82%
95.Try, Try, Try (Alternate Take) 76.61%
96.We Only Come Out At Night 76.41%
97.Sweet Sweet 75.97%
98.Cash Car Star 75.75%
99.La Dolly Vita 75.52%
100.Heavy Metal Machine 75.40%
101.Real Love 74.90%
102.White Spyder 74.52%
103.Lily (My One and Only) 74.50%
104.If There Is A God (Piano and Voice) 74.27%
105.Tristessa 74.13%
106.Tales of a Scorched Earth 73.92%
107.Glass' Theme 73.82%
108.Spaceboy 73.35%
109.Crush 72.50%
110.Annie-Dog 71.59%
111.Innosense 70.82%
112.The Imploding Voice 70.66%
113.Cash Car Star (Alternate Take) 70.36%

114.Blew Away 68.22%
115.Blue 68.10%
116.Pissant 68.09%
117.Take Me Down 65.75%

118.Girl Named Sandoz 58.05%
119.If There Is A God (Full Band) 57.06%
120.Spaced 53.48%

121.Glass' Theme (Spacey) 47.53%
122.Soul Power 46.05%
123.Le Deux Machina 44.30%

124.Heavy Metal Machine (Alternate Take) 31.32%

Album Average:

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Rotten Apples 86.90%
(Best Song: Tonight, Tonight)
Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 86.41%
(Best Song: Thru The Eyes Of Ruby)
Adore 86.31%
(Best Song: Blank Page)
Siamese Dream 85.86%
(Best Song: Mayonaise)
Machina / The Machines Of God 83.23%
(Best Song: Stand Inside Your Love)
Gish 82.50%
(Best Song: Rhinoceros)
Pisces Iscariot 74.80%
(Best Song: Starla)
Machina II / The Friends & Enemies of Modern Music 74.26%
(Best Song: Dross)
Machina II EPs 71.08%
(Best Song: Lucky 13)


Rate the given song from 1-10. 1 being the lowest, 10 being the highest
The higher the number, the more you enjoy the song.
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Anything below a 1 will be counted as a 1.
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I'll compile the results for each song once the replies slow down or stop coming in, after that the score is set.
Feel free to discuss.

Ferocious. I like the bitter vocals that often seem 'uttered' rather than 'sung'.
A brutally honest endeavor into chaos.

9.9

Start with an easy 10. Subtract 2 for the lifeless vocals and 1 for the worst production of any song, ever.

7

It does have poor production (not the worst ever though). The vocals are lifeless, but given the lyrics of the song, they work well here (unlike the similarly stale vocals on Song For A Son).
With different production and more passionate vocals, this could easily have fit on MCIS. And to be honest, the song is so good I'm happy to overlook any slight flaws. One of my favourite SP 2 songs and a great way to kick start the band back into life.

10

Great review epitome! We should brace ourselves for the inevitable backlash though

frankB wrote:
I know, it's a bit depressing that people don't like Zeitgeist. I mean, yeah, the production is pretty poor, and yeah, Billy's vocals aren't what they used to be... but it's a series of great alt. rock songs (with a couple of exceptions ). Course, I don't like some songs other people love, we have some wildly differing opinions on here.

Now, how can we hide these Zeitgeist song threads from Don?

I think Zeitgeist is a great album, and totally not what I was expecting. Some of my Pumpkin-fan friends got it, others not so much. I don't have a problem with the production actually, but then I'm not a musical expert. Zeitgeist has such a dark raw feel to it, and as much as the haters will hate, you cannot deny it's fearlessness. A major improvement on the last BC endeavor (Future Embrace) which lacked everything this album has.

I don't think we can hide it from Don though..
Him and others have been looking forward to this moment

frankB wrote:
I know and it's kind of annoying to me, because just a few really low scores are going to totally drag these songs down

Zeitgeist starts off dark and aggressive, but the second half of the album (though still having some dark moments) is much mellower and at times more uplifiting. But that works quite well in the flow of the album, I think. The first time I listened to it though, I did feel like BC was almost tricking us with some classic MCIS-style songs at the start... but maybe that works well too... starting off almost as an homage to SP 1 and gradually moving away as the album goes on, into SP 2. I'm probably reading too much into that actually

As for the production - this is what me and my friends in the 90s would've called "over-produced"... you can tell there is energy and aggression in the songs, but the production is so slick a lot of that gets lost. But like I said, I'm willing to overlook that, especially as a lot of albums in the last 10 years have the same problem to some extent.

The right production & better vocals & lyrics would have made this a 7.
The songwriting is not the worst at all, though there are too many drop-d fifths (Rammstein sound ).
But it sounds horrible this way. Lifeless and stiff. And I can't help but feel that Billy tried to let it sound harder than it should.

4 points

Yeah! ZEITGEIST!!

This one's okay, good way to kickstart the album.

7.5

The Smashing Pumpkins "Doomsday Clock," is the "Fuck You (An Ode To No One)" of Zeitgeist, and it's one of the few tracks that the production works for instead of against. The Smashing Pumpkins "Doomsday Clock," is a great song the music, the drumming, and the vocals are great, it's also a great live song too. I really hope The Smashing Pumpkins include "Doomsday Clock" in there setlist the next time they tour. I rat the The Smashing Pumpkins "Doomsday Clock" a 10 / 10.

I've always liked this one. 8.

I think this one is an alright song, nothing really stand out on it.
I'm giving it a 7.

Earphoria ,Mellon Collie And The Infinite Sadness, The Airplane Flies High, Adore, and The 20th Anniversary Tour CDs and MP3s are the only albums and completions that have good production. Gish, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot, Machina / The Machines Of God, MachinaII / The Friends And Enemies Of Modern Music, Zeitgeist, and American Gothic all have flawed production. Almost every song from The Smashing Pumpkins sounds five times better live. Yeah, I said it, The Smashing Pumpkins - Siamese Dream has crapy production, wanna make something of it

Is that The Smashing Pumpkins "Siamese Dream"?

6.3, which will be one of the highest scores I give on this album....not blatntly trying to be negative, I just do not care for this record that much.

ghostchild wrote:

I think its a great song. I'd heard nothing but bad about Zeitgeist. And then i put it on and I loved how this track started. This might be a bit of an over rated score, but I dont want this track to be dragged down. I'd say....... 9.5

Rolling Stone gave Zeitgeist 4 stars. It's really not a bad album. It was my first SP album, and a good starting point because I had no expectations.

8.4

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