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www.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/16742-oceania/

Pitchfork review.

ryon wrote:
Well, I kinda expected a score around that range. I wasn't really aware of all the similarities Oceania had lyrically and song structure wise until they brought it up, because overall, this album has a different sound than most of the Pumpkins albums. (save for maybe Zeitgeist)

Oceania is growing on me in a huge way. I'm probably 10 - 15 listens in now. I'm starting to notice things I missed before, like little things and details I keep forgetting are there. I'm also starting to adjust to The Chimera / Glissandra / Inkless segment and I'm conceiving it's placing in a positive light. Still not ready for review, but getting there...

kjrain12 wrote:
I want to read that..but I don't at the same time.

Those pretentious assholes of Pitchfork aren't even worth being mentioned.
They always were afraid of experimental, alternative and meaningful writing.
Fuck them and their shitty club of morons.
Makes me mad like always.

Aweeeeee yeah!!! Listening to Oceania on vinyl

In a single day, Oceania has more ratings (and much higher) on iTunes than Zeitgeist has had in 5 years. It is also apparently the top selling Alternative album in that store. It's only being beat by Justin Bieber (say nothing of the quality, that album is being scooped up by droves of music illiterates) and Kenny Chesney, one of modern country music's biggest mainstream stars.

For some reason I suspect physical sales of Oceania might exceed physical sales of those two albums. Something about Pumpkins fans generally being audiophiles and having an awareness of track quality and such.


And I really just laughed at that Pitchfork review. I saw it coming the day they announced the album. Excuse me for being lazy, but this observation I cribbed from HU says all that really needs to be said about it.
David B wrote:

Again for those who might have missed it:
FUCK Pitchfork!

so it appears it was in the mail, i just never got confirmation. and it came UPS, not FedEx... details details.

anyways, on my first listen... well i wasn't floored, but i didn't really expect to be. i have yet to care for any of the lyrics (except Pale Horse), but the production quality is just a huge step up from Teargarden. and Pinwheels really resounds with me, the introduction in particular. my standouts so far are all songs i've already heard, Pinwheels, Oceania, and Pale Horse. the good news is theres nothing i can't stand. and the only song i don't particularly care for is Wildflower. so i'll definately be exploring the album more these next few weeks

oh and shirt, hoodie, good

Yeah, that Pitchfork review blowed. I'm not knocking it for its rating, but the whole "let's sigh and chuckle at Billy for being a megalomaniac" schtick is pretty old already

Well, after about an hour of downloading I finally got to listen to Oceania. It was nice, because it didn't suck. I actually got kind of into it. It kind of lost its momentum after the song "Oceania", but on the whole the album had energy and emotion you could actually feel. So I c'moned and feeled it at last.

And thank God (Billy) for not giving it the whole vocals-at-the-front ala Zeitgeist treatment....*shudder*

I give it an iTunes rating of 4 stars

Pretty much everyone was bored by the Glissandra/Inkless section on first listen but believe me it will grow fast.
There is so much to discover in this album. Looking forward to further listens .
I can not help but hear a matured Billy in some parts if that makes any sense at all.
The whole album is so warm and uplifting a SP fan could never expect.
Yes, sometimes it is a fine line to cheese and yes, almost nothing rocks hard, but why giving a fuck since Oceania proofs to be a true SP effort for it feels somuch out of it's place and time.
Props to Billy for newly inventing his band again.

iheartradio live stream

they are playing live right now!

The crowd was so dead! There should have been crazy moshing going on for XYU!

venison wrote:
Ugh, don't even go there. That possibility is too horrifying to imagine... Björn and Billy did a great job at mixing this one right. I would want to point the finger at Roy Thomas Baker and Kerry, but hey, that's in the past and we can pretend it never happened. We just have to wait a few years for the Zeit reissue, which I have a reason to suspect will be in its original heavy mix rather than the Warner-pressured pop vocal mix that currently mars it.



And Shatter, moshing went out of style years ago, man. Now you have to stand around texting and looking disinterested, or politely staring at the band.

...yeah this generation really sucks at expressing themselves, everybody is too afraid to put themselves out there.

Sikamikanico999 wrote:
I call them the generation Facebook and they're a bunch of shallow teenagers that don't know what to other than dressing and behaving like moviestars.
I wonder why they even bother listening to Billy's music.

^Don't generalize too much Don, not all of us are like that!

My copy of Oceania should be arriving in the mail today, hell yeah!

2nd listen. i'm not that good with words, so i'll use a face... it's beautiful! even Wildflower grew a bit.

Pug92 wrote:
You must've given it some wildwater...

Not sure if this has been posted but the album seems to be doing pretty well with a 72/100 by metacritic: www.metacritic.com/music/oceania

All of the reviews are listed on there for you to read should you wish... though I guess with the album out we will all be deciding for ourselves

I am listening for the first time... so far I have not been blown away. I felt that way the first time I listened to Kid A, The Suburbs, Clap Your Hands Say Yeah, Adore, Teargarden... etc. So I think that is a good sign. It sounds like the kind of album that will take a few listens before I can really appreciate it.

P.S. The albums listed are now some of my favorites of all time (minus Teargarden, it is too early to declare it a fav of all time)

kjrain12 wrote: I think we're part of the same generation though, right? The "Millennials." Yeah, I know, it's an arbitrary cutoff point but they say anyone who was born between the mid-80's and early 00's, roughly.
anyway, I lost my faith in my generation when they came out with N'Sync and Britney Spears