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Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66782

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http://www.amoeba.com/dynamic-images/free-downloads/mp3/01AstralPlanes.mp3
“Astral Planes” begins with a bunch of feedback into a distorted-from-the-depths-of-Hell guitar introduction. This sounds like the devil is raining down fire on all of us, but it’s just Billy Corgan with some tasty licks."
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66783

Musically, the best one yet. Period. Love the guitar sound, love the riff. But....as usual lately, the lyrics are SHIT!!!!!!!

This is Mike's best effort by a long shot too. The drumming ain't half bad!
Destroy the mind, destroy the body, but you cannot destroy the heart!

Tell me, tell me what you\\\'re after...I just wanna get there faster.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66784

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I do like the guitar sound, but I'm not crazy about that pulsing phaser or what is going on. Decent, but I haven't liked this song from the beginning.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66785

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minus the singing and lyrics, a kickass song!
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66786

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Awesome song. Good job, Billy :sillyhat
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66788

The guitar sound at the beginning reminds me of Bodies....which is probably why I like it. I kinda dig the phaser too. This is the only one of the 4 that I was compelled to listen to again as soon as it ended. Although on subsequent listens, I picked up on Linda Strawbimbo's subtle backup "everyone"'s and that's a bit of a turn off. At least it's buried enough in the mix that it doesn't distract too much.
Destroy the mind, destroy the body, but you cannot destroy the heart!

Tell me, tell me what you\\\'re after...I just wanna get there faster.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66789

The start reminds me of Bodies too. Sadly, it goes downhill soon after when the vocals start. His voices has a whiny pop sound to it, which doesn't really suit the music.

And the lyrics, again, are basic and generally crap. I mean, if he doesn't have great lyrics coming to him as easily as he used to 10-15 years ago he should really start sitting there for longer and working on them. It sounds like he thinks of a few lines, can't think of anything else, so just repeats them.

I like the distorted sound of the music, but my first impression is that over all this is the weakest song yet - meaning, for me, they've got worse each time. Still, I've only listened once, so there's a fair chance I'll change that statement later on...
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66791

Fairplay despite the dodgy lyrics this is a really good song!! great guitar sound and nice and psychadelic 8-) Nice one Billy
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66794

a bit repetitive, but upon first impression, a decent tune.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66795

A bit repetitive? Other than a brief section in the middle it's just one line over and over again. It makes WWMM's lyrics seem complex.

I have to presume Billy's too busy with other things to put time and effort into SP's music at the moment.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66796

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Granted, I'm listening on my laptop speakers, but I do not like this mix at all. Need to go find my headphones.

The phasing is a bit much. I would have preferred some classic SP "crunch" at the heavy breaks, but I know better than that.

For some reason the end trailing off into the weird guitar reminds me of the breakdown in Glass and the Ghost Children.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66797

Listening to the 4 songs in succession makes me hate the individual pieces less. Maybe this thing is finally taking on some kind of identity?

I still can't stand WWMM, though....
Destroy the mind, destroy the body, but you cannot destroy the heart!

Tell me, tell me what you\\\'re after...I just wanna get there faster.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66798

After first listen.
Too repetitive (musically and lyrics), although it is a good tune. Wish he could have expanded it a lot more.
So far first 4 songs have not done much for me :(
Your strength is my weakness, your weakness my hate
My love for you just can't explain
Why we're forever frozen, forever beautiful
Forever lost inside ourselves
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66799

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ghostchild wrote:
Listening to the 4 songs in succession makes me hate the individual pieces less. Maybe this thing is finally taking on some kind of identity?

Did you know that this is actually the third song on the EP?

1. Song for a Son
2. Widow Wake My Mind
3. Astral Planes
4. A Stitch in Time

^ That's the track listing.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66800

PistolPete wrote:
Decent, but I haven't liked this song from the beginning.

Yeah, same here. I have to admit that I was surprised when it first started playing, though. I didn't expect for it to be that "heavy". I think I agree with the general belief that the music sounds pretty awesome, but the lyrics suck. In fact, lyric wise, this is probably some of the worst that Billy has ever written. I kinda wish he would have screamed at the end, like he did live, but I knew he wasn't going to. Oh well. This is my least favorite of the four released so far.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66801

superchrist wrote:
In fact, lyric wise, this is probably some of the worst that Billy has ever written.

Agreed!

superchrist wrote:
This is my least favorite of the four released so far.

Agreed!



I was hoping (though not realistically expecting) that this song would restore my faith in the project, but contrary to that it ended up being far worse than I expected and the worst song so far, despite some decent music and having a nice distorted sound to it.
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66804

Im a bit dissapointed too many effects on the track the live version with billy and the spirits in the sky (linda strawberry backing vocals) is far better and much more raw like the old pumpkins. I know billy likes to change his music but he seems like he has changed a track that I was really looking forward a bit too much :(
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66806

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Astral Planes isn't up on their website, but the new art is.
Chewbacca masks!
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66810

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This is my favourite so far. Yes, its repetitive but for some reason I can tolerate it more than the other songs on the EP. Lyrically, this EP is very, very weak but I expect that too change with the next EP. Do you guys think that there will be a large gap between now and the first release of the next EP?
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Re:Astral Planes 3 years 1 month ago #66817

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Yeah, looking back now that the first EP is completed, it's been a wild ride, with some good bumps, and some bad bumps along the way, but this is truly a journey I will never forget...
uuhhhh, *barf*
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So 1/3 of an entire year later, and we finally have a 4-song EP...and 10 more to go!

Alright, I'm really thinking that this whole process is going on way too slowly. It's a pretty strange way to go about an album now that I think about it. Usually when all the songs are in place at once you take it all in and get to appreciate the nuances of the emotional progression and changes in mood that each song brings to the plate as the album wears on.

But with this 1 song a month set up, what ends up happening is that you listen to each new song to death (or just a few times if you think it sucks :p ), and then you're stuck with whatever you have until the next "4-6 weeks". There's no forward momentum, no buildup, no climax. Or if there is, it dissipates in the weeks of waiting and accumulated disinterest. Somehow this whole project feels stagnant...
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