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frankB wrote: kjrain12 wrote:
They are, I fear.

MACHINA/ Gish songwriting + production = god

SD songwriting= god
SD production= ass (though the remaster fixes some issues).

I know you don't like the poppy feel of SD but I think Vig's production really suited that album. Definitely at least better than Machinas production imo

Songwriting (at least lyric wise) for Gish was kinda weak

I loved the lyrics and music on Gish and Siamese Dream, but I have to admit, I do think Mellon Collie production would have made both those albums better. I don't think the reissues fix any of the production problems, I think it adds to the problems, I like all of the bonus material, but as for the albums, not so much. I hope they don't mess up Adore, however I can't wait to hear Machina, Machina 2, and Zeitgeist remixed and reissued. Maybe they can strip it down to one set of vocals on Zeitgeist instead of Billy layered ten times. I unlike most people enjoyed The Teargarden By Kaleidoscope

If I was gonna make an album out of the singles released after Zeitgeist and Teargarden it would be

The Teargarden Theme

Song For A Son

Freak U.S.A.

G.L.O.W.

Superchrist

Lightning Strikes

F.O.L.

Astral Planes

Widow Wake My Mind

The Fellowship

Tom Tom

Owata

Spangled

A Stitch In Time

Cottonwood Symphony

.

I don't like Mellon Collie's production as much as SD's. Butch Vig is where it's at. Sorry, but I hate when my music sounds like shit. Not the MCIS does, but I think Butch is pretty brilliant.

I think Butch Vig just messed up Billy's voice, but to each his own.

Dorovo wrote:
I'm the opposite, I usually don't like it when rock music has production that makes it all sound too slick. Although I don't like Vig, I don't think SD's production is that bad though, it still rocks pretty hard, but I much prefer the production on MCIS, which is pretty much has the perfect sound for my ears

1) This guy I knew once knew said(and he wasn't kidding) he had a vision from god and made an album based largely around this vision which was in the idea that sexual perversion is satan(named "pubis" in the songs) and the struggle of a young man to get in touch with god despite the influences of satan. It was all casio keyboard music(including the guitars), and it was filled with his voice modified to a high high pitch(for the young man) or to a low low "evil" pitch(for satan).

2) My friend worked for a studio who produced a christian rock band and this album started out the following way: imagine a commercial-type rock jingle and then the voice cuts in with a normal mid-range male voice: "can't stop rockin', can't stop for rockin', can't stop rockin'" then pause and switch to a falsetto voice: "for god" extending the work god it's like this: "for goooooood." I did not listen to the rest of the album.

3) Metallica -- Saint Anger. Anyone dare fight for the greatness of saint anger? Not me. Beer companies should use this album to sell beer the following way: "seek and destroy" starts playing and the commercial voice says "this is your brain." Then a pause and then "some kind of monster" starts playing, and the commercial voice says "this is your brain off alcohol." Everyone would start drinking right away.

4) Whatever the first album was by Candlebox. Madonna is great at marketing, and it worked with Candlebox. Until their album came out.

5) Any comedy album by any of the blue collar comedy tour except ron white. This culture of redneck comedy is all the fundamentalist christians need to prove that there is no such thing as evolution. Outside of violence, this might be humanity at its worst. I try to not hate anything; I seriously fail at times with these albums. I keep the memory of Bill Hicks alive in the fight for important and great comedy(just as the rock band tool does as well).

TaureanStar wrote:

I love you TaureanStar, totally original answers! I guess his album about seeing god wasn't even half as good as some else's album about hear god talk to him through the radio. And yes I too hate Blue Collar Comedy Tour albums, and I also hate Country Music (with the exception of Johnny Cash).

TaureanStar wrote:
this made me lol because i was reading "then pause n switch to falsetto" and thought hmmm... judas preist! and then the way you wrote it "for goooooood" i could really hear it. and it was great.

ive never had a problem with albums, i just like songs and theres only a few full albums i like... but mary star of the sea was pretty skip worthy for like 85%... who ever had that on their list.

I forgot to mention Gary Young : Hospital, yes the drummer from pavement made his own solo album, it was scary and funny at the same time.

This is the best song on the album

shocked by some of the albums in this list.

Nevermind? Please go listen to the Devonshire Mixes, its like a completely different album.

Dont think i can give a list of my worst albums, but i can say some i dont like.

Anything by Nickelback
Kings of Leon
Metro Station

i could just sit here and list bands i dont like, but i cant be bothered

Spaceoy wrote:

TaureanStar wrote:
Agreed. I don't care for Candlebox and St Anger was pretty inexcusable.

St Anger is average. Maybe it's bad.

But did you ever hear the Metallica / Lou Reed combination double album Lulu? That thing wins an oscar for worst lyrics of all time. And the music is worse than the worst stuff on Pearl Jam's Vitalogy.

Now, a thread titled "Guilty Pleasures"..... --> Great idea! I know I have quite a few embarrassing one's (not to me, but I'm certain most of you all would consider them so).

I think that thread already exists

frankB wrote:
No, I heard how bad it was, no need to put myself through that right?

Yeah there's nothing redeemable about it whatsoever.

frankB wrote:
Those are the worst kinds of albums. Usually you can find SOME redeemable factor, but with some albums theres just no such luck.